Michelle Bachmann:

I came across the following remark from Don at hodgen.com :

Don says:   May 9, 2012 at 8:32 pm

… Other interesting news, Michelle Backmann has become a Swiss Citizen, strange but true.

I wonder what her stance on FATCA is?

Oddly enough, Wikipedia has been updated to show that she is “American-Swiss” (born April 6, 1956) “is an AmericanSwiss Republican member of the United States House of Representatives … “
Very interesting.

58 thoughts on “Michelle Bachmann:

  1. Maybe this is a good thing. If she or her children try to open a bank account, maybe she will learn what it feels like to be asked by a banker if she has any ties to America and then be told that if that is the case “we have no business with you” and be shown to the door.

    Realistically, she and her her family probably have enough money that they would not feel the burden of the extra fees when she is referred to the “American compliant” section of the bank.

  2. The client onboarding process is allegedly supposed to be much more rigorous for “politically connected persons” than for others — especially in private banking/wealth management. But in practice it is often not. I am trying to find the story I remember of a (West African?) politician who was aided by a major bank to create a trust in which he was the settlor, trustee, and beneficiary, and then claimed to his local elections commission that he did not own the trust’s assets …

  3. If her family is indeed rich, she might be isolated from some oppourtunities to learn what it means to be the average IBS member, to wit: mostly middle-class people baffled by US treatment of US Persons Abroad and harrassed through extraterritorial taxation.

    I do suspect that Bachmann would be sheltered by lawyers,some of which might not know the pitfalls of FBAR/FATCA/DT.

  4. If I were Bachmann I would have waited until after the elections were over to register as a Swiss citizen. Dishonest, I know, but isn’t having dual citizenship almost considered political suicide in the US?

    Also, according to politico she filed her citizenship registration form on 15 Feb and was approved on 19 March. Is Switzerland absurdly efficient with citizenship applications or does anyone else think that she was was given VIP treatment? I know that she was just registering a citizenship that was technically already there, but come on!

  5. Nothing odd about this whatsover. Romney is a dual US-Mexican citizen, his father having been born in Mexico, this being Mexican by birth, to a US citizen father. And Obama is a dual US-Kenyan citizen, having been born in the US to a father who became a Kenyan citizen when that country was establishe and its citizenship automatically extended to all born there and their children, like Obama, who was born abroad.

  6. Personally, I think this is problematic on constitutional grounds. A senator must be a citizen of the United States. This would exclude, in my thinking, dual citizens. Senators will often be privy to classified information, depending on what committees they serve on. Dual citizens are not allowed in jobs which require a security clearance (depending on the level).

    The Republican party needs to expulse her from the party and refuse her future candidacy.

    The concept of dual citizenship is problematic enough without having leaders of elected office as duals. Dual citizens have by the nature of their commitment to two different countries, divided and uncertain loyalties. This may be fine for an ordinary citizen, but I think it is extremely problematic when it comes to members of elected office.

  7. @ Roger It is precisely problematic because a person has divided loyalties and because it is unconstitutional. Obama is a good case in point. In as much as he is a Kenyan or Indoneisian, he is disqualified from the office of President of the United States. But nobody gives a damn about the Constiution any more (except Ron Paul), especially in the Democrat party, and the party allowed his dubious candidature. Undoubtedly, not a single democrat will question Michelle Bachman, lest their own dear presidential candidate be himself disqualified.

  8. @Jefferson: We were discussing this yesterday on other threads. Here are comments I posted: #

    Here’s more about the new Swiss Miss from Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/09/michele-bachmann-swiss-citizenship_n_1502784.html

    I especially liked these comments from the article: For Bachmann, a vocal critic of President Barack Obama’s health care reform law, the move comes with a twist of irony. Switzerland has nearly universal health care and mandates that its citizens purchase coverage. Bachmann herself has repeatedly taken issue with the individual mandate included in Obama’s law.

    She has described health care reform as “the crown jewel of socialism” and argued it amounts to “gangster government.”

    Watch out Uncle Tell and Jefferson Thomas. Switzerland may be invaded by The Tea Party courtesy of your newest citizen fighting gangster government. Please remind Ms. Bachman to file FBARs and tell her she won’t be able to open a bank account in her new country of citizenship because she is a “US person.” Without a bank account, she won’t have to worry about FATCA.

  9. @Roger

    Of course, but neither has made a claim to either foreign citizenship. Imagine though if Mexico and Kenya had their own FATCAs, FBARs and citizenship based taxation in place. Could you imagine the outrage of the US political establishment in trying to claim Romney or Obama as one of their own? 😛


    You also have the people who aren’t really loyal to anything at all – Dual citizenship might represent nothing more than a work permit. I know several people who have acquired US or EU citizenship and only did so to expand their job opportunities – Their loyalties, if they had any to begin with in the first place, are usually towards their own interests first, foremost and exclusively. I imagine that this is true of most of the political class on both sides of the Atlantic nowadays, so dual citizenship doesn’t concern me in the least.

  10. Canada had a dual citizen Prime Minister in John Turner but I think that was more a case of Turner being a Canadian/Commonwealth citizen with the “right of abode” in the United Kingdom as current Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard would have. Before 1949(1969 in Australia and NZ) there was no such thing as Canadian citizenship all Canadian were essentially British subjects and in a strict sense still are(and even moreso before 1982). British/Commonwealth nationality is determined more by your right of abode in the UK than the idea or being British, Canadian, Australian etc. Even if you don’t have the right of abode in the UK as a Canadian citizen if you are able to obtain a work permit to live in the UK once arriving you are entitled to most of the rights of British citizenship such as the right to vote in British elections. I believe current NZ Prime Minister John Key admitted he voted in a British Election as a Commonwealth citizen when living in the UK on a work visa.

  11. Has anyone seen the oath of Swiss citizenship?

    Let’s say she’s voting on a Treaty with Swizterland. Would she not have to recuse herself from the vote due to a conflict of interest? What an absurd situation that would create. A United States senator who must recuse herself from voting on a treaty because she herself is a citizen of that country. What is the world coming to?

  12. although legal, her status as a dual citizen might limit her ability to represent her constituents.
    Dual citizens can be officers of the US, Chuck Yaeger was dual CDN/US, nor does restrict getting security clearances, I received NATO and US clearances after becoming CDN, and was still on the recall to active duty list(USAF) when I renounced.

    In researching my situation, found the case of a USC born in Brazil, he sought a visa to family and was told he needed a Brazilian passport.
    After he obtained a Brazilian passport, the agency he worked for, revoked his clearance.
    He appealed this action, however the final decision was that acting on his second citizenship was inconsistent with having a security clearance.

    WRT to renounce/relinguish if she acts as a USC
    by traveling on a US passport she will need to renounce. If she acts as a Swiss citizen she risks losing her security clearance.

  13. She didn’t have to take an oath – She acquired citizenship automatically through marriage to a Swiss citizen whether she wanted to or not. Italy used to do the same thing – One of my parents acquired Italian citizenship back in 1980 the same way. There were no oaths or questions asked – Just a done deed and she was registered in the ancestral Commune!

  14. @ Petros
    I agree that dual citizenship is a problem in Congress and key government appointments. If it had not been allowed then dual US-Israeli citizen Carl Levin would not have been around to create the problems he has — either that or he would have to have give up his loyalty to Israel before accepting the responsibility of supposedly looking after American interests first.

  15. What Mexico and Kenya should do is put in citizenship based taxation and suddenly start enforcing it. I think they should start calling all mutual funds PFICs and taxing them as if they were sold each year in their local currency value, even if they were not. If that was the case, Mitt Romney might quickly recognize that people as well as corporations are people and that a territorial taxation policy that only considers business is not complete. President Obama might get the wake up call this way as letters and lobbying do not seem to reach him.

  16. In Canada the granting of passport is technically a royal perogrative of the Queen in practice done on the advice of her Privy Council.

  17. Don wrote: “She didn’t have to take an oath – She acquired citizenship automatically through marriage to a Swiss citizen whether she wanted to or not.”

    Actually the article says that she and the rest of the family went through an activation process, which she hadn’t done, though married to Swiss national since 1978.

  18. Re some comments above about dual citizenship and politics.

    Politics is one of the reasons why I was upset when I first learned that the US might consider me to be a dual citizen. I’ve been really active in politics (just at the grassroots level, but I’ve been a delegate to national conventions and policy conferences). I know it’s okay to be a dual in politics, and it would not automatically disqualify someone from getting my vote. But for me, personally, I would not have felt comfortable as a dual in politics. I sure wouldn’t want anyone to think that I was looking after another country’s interests at our policy conferences.

    On a happy note … although a few months ago, when I first learned of this, I thought that the US had retroactively reinstated all relinquished citizenships, fortunately I since learned otherwise (thanks, Brock!) So I recently applied for a CLN and was reassured that my relinquishment did indeed occur many years ago.

  19. @Roger, Lisa: Don’t forget, Obama’s mother also took out Indonesian citizenship when he was a child. Although Obama and Romney may not have claimed, Kenyan, Indonesian or Mexican citizenship, neither have many of the children born outside the US to parents who were born in the US. Yet, the US still considers them US persons.

    Kenya and Indonesia could simply do what the US has done: Declare Obama a Kenyan or Indonesian person. Mexico should do the same with Romney. That is no different than what the US is trying to do to those of us who relinquished 30, 40, 50 or even 60 years ago.

    Let’s not forget John Kerry’s wife was born in Mozambique to Portuguese parents. Her mother was a British national with ancestral ties to Switzerland, Italy and France and Malta.

    Maria Thierstein Sinoes-Ferreireia Heinz Kerry is the widow of Republican Pennsylvania Senator John Heinz and inherited a vast sum of the Heinz fortune on his death. Under reciprocity, when FATCA becomes GATCA under reciprocity, there are numerous countries which could make claim to information about her assets, including the multitude of foundations and charitable organizations with which she is involved.

    Tim, that would be great information for your friend to use when he meets or contacts John Kerry. Hopefully, that would help Kerry to see the lunacy of this (although I understand the couple maintains their vast wealth separately)

    Back to Michelle Bachman, this is how someone becomes a Swiss citizen through marriage (courtesy of Wikipedia):

    “A person married to a Swiss citizen may apply for Swiss citizenship by facilitated naturalisation after living in Switzerland for five years and having been married for at least three years. No language test is required, but one must show the following:

    * integration into the Swiss way of life;
    * compliance with the Swiss rule of law;
    * no danger to Switzerland’s internal or external security.

    Children from the person’s previous relationships (but not same-sex couples) are given citizenship along with the partner.

    It is also possible for the spouse of a Swiss citizen to apply for facilitated naturalisation while resident overseas after the following:

    * six years of marriage to a Swiss citizen; and
    * close ties to Switzerland.

    Spouses acquiring Swiss citizenship by facilitated naturalisation will acquire the citizenship of the community and canton of their Swiss spouse.”

    It doesn’t say if Bachman had to take an oath, but she did have to apply–It wasn’t automatic. With her views on universal health care, I would certainly consider her a danger to Swiss values and lifestyle.

  20. @ Blaze who wrote:
    Let’s not forget John Kerry’s wife was born in Mozambique to Portuguese parents. Her mother was a British national with ancestral ties to Switzerland, Italy and France and Malta.
    LOL — looks like she really is a Heinz 57! 🙂

  21. Good find on the video. I think Michelle got Swiss citizenship so if the sh** ever hits the fan, she can get out. For insurance purposes.

  22. @Em: Good One!

    Oh, I forgot. Heinz-Kerry (although I think she just uses Heinz now) also has ancestral ties to Egypt. Wouldn’t GATCA be fun for this one?!?

  23. It is not just someone born outside a country that should have to claim citizenship. For many like myself, born in the US but returned to Canada or some other country as children. We have never claimed US citizenship! I simply lived there as a child, even going to a US school has nothing to do with citizenship. For citizenship to be claimed I think a person needs to be 18 years of age, otherwise it should automatically expire. I think a law that would terminate citizenship for a dual citizen automatically, but gave the person the right to reclaim it for the rest of their life would be reasonable and would satisfy the fourteenth amendment. The supreme court when, they said that the fourteenth amendment gave US citizenship to anyone born on US soil did so as to not violate a persons right. In so doing the inadvertently said that you have a lifelong tax obligation. While it may be fair to protect my right to citizenship, it is not fair at all to give me the responsibility of taxes that go with a citizenship that I have never asked for or claimed.

  24. @John

    Well we will never know for sure because there is no public list of renounced Swiss citizens(I mean exactly what I say as in she is lying). I wonder though how much political pushback exactly was there over this she seemed to backpedal pretty fast.

  25. And, if anyone has missed it — CONGRATULATIONS to pacifica777! A much more important story than Michelle Bachman’s wishy-washy change of mind over her second citizenship.

    Pacifica has been granted her relinquishment and is the real Queen for A Day at Isaac Brock. Her accomplishment is now enshrined in the Relinquishment and Renunciation database at http://isaacbrocksociety.com/2012/03/14/draft-pdf-compilation-of-relinquishment-and-renunciation-data-as-reported-on-isaac-brock/.

  26. Congratulations Pacifica!

    Maybe Michelle Bachman learned Switzerland has the “crown jewel of socialism” which she is so vehemently opposed to–universal health care.

    In any case, I find this whole fiasco a real insult to what it means to be a citizen. For an elected official of any country to so casually take on and then quickly discard the citizenship of a country where she has never lived is an affront to anyone who values citizenship.


  27. Tim, Pacifica will post something soon so I don’t want to jump in. I saw that no one picked up on that important piece of news on the Michelle Bachmann post. In my mind, Pacifica’s is the more important story. Stay tuned.

  28. @Petros

    Only those who naturalise take an oath. She had to register her citizenship because her husbands Swiss status was not registered in Switzerland at the time of marriage.

    I’m not denying that she had to actively apply to seek citizenship, but citizenship by descent or automatically acquired through marriage does not imply taking an oath, since that applies that the citizenship wasn’t acquired automatically. If she had been married later on she would have had to apply and naturalise as a spouse of a Swiss citizen after it was no longer acquired automatically through marriage.

    Personally, I am glad that Italy, for example, got rid of automatic citizenship through marriage. I think that is a farce and cheapens citizenship when it can be acquired without any waiting period nor taking into account whether the spouse even wants to obtain another citizenship. Regardless, I agree with you that oath or no oath a sitting US congresswoman probably shouldn’t have acquired a foreign citizenship in the first place. John’s link above seems to just confirm that she made a stupid move. She must be the only person in history to renounce a Swiss citizenship days after acquiring it.

  29. Dear Michelle Bachman, members of Congress, Barach Obama and IRS: Since swearing allegiance to Canada 40 years ago, I want to make it perfectly clear: I am a proud Canadian citizen. I have for 40 years been 100 percent committed to Canada, to Canadian laws and values and not to those of the foreign government of United States of America. Please butt out of my life and the lives of others around the world.

  30. hey Blaze, nice … what looks to be an Red Coat from a distance??

    Michelle Bachmann. I had no idea she was married to a “foreigner” (how did GW II pronounce that?– fur-re-ner?).

    Good for her that she got Swiss citizenship. Now I hope she becomes a member of the Isaac Brock Society :-). Hahah, that would be a good one.

    Anyway, this is good because maybe now she’ll be ** closer to the issues ** that we have been facing, at least until some of us have renounced / relinquished.

  31. WTF?

    Bachmann renounced her Swiss citizenship after only one day? An amazing flip-flop — hard to top that one.

    I just lost all respect (which wasn’t much) that I had for her.

    She definitely deserves the “don’t let the door hit you in the @$$” award from the Swiss.

  32. You’ve got to be kidding me… she already renounced? I don1t believe it, what about her kids, and her husband? She may say she renounced Swiss Citizenship, but where’s the proof?

  33. @Geez: Yep, that’s me in my Brock uniform–complete with sword! Saddened says that’s what caused the US border guard to wave me across without a word about my US place of birth a couple of weeks ago.

    And, yes, it’s true Michelle Bachmann has already renounced. Here’s an article http://climateerinvest.blogspot.ca/2012/05/michele-bachman-renounces-swiss.html

    Did this woman really want to be President just a few months ago? As a feminist, I never imagined some of the first female contenders for the US President and VP would be the likes of Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman. But, I always did say we would achieve equality when there were as many incompetent women in positions of responsibility as there were incompetent men. It seems that day is getting ever closer!

    Give me back Geraldine Ferraro and Flora MacDonald (OK, I’m showing my age!). I like Hilary Clinton too, but she achieved too much of her success through Bill–or maybe in spite of him!

  34. @Blaze, I love you in your uniform! I think we all should have one. Anyone that comments on Isaac Brock should have one..And the sword as well..

  35. Wow, what a bunch of discussion that sparked. I’m not sure exactly what has just happened, as I just woke up.

    9 Mai 2012 Swiss Francophone TV confirms that Bachmann is Swiss: http://www.rts.ch/info/suisse/3981705-l-ex-candidate-a-la-maison-blanche-michele-bachmann-est-suisse.html See her video interview— she seems really happy about Switzerland.

    10 Mai 2012 She writes a letter of renunciation? http://climateerinvest.blogspot.ca/2012/05/michele-bachman-renounces-swiss.html (link from Blaze) What I cannot understand is how she could renounce so quickly. If I were the Swiss foreign minister I would admonish her for being so “unreliable”!!

    What in the H is going on? How can she be happy about Switzerland one moment and renounce the next because of her political aspirations? Switzerland is a neutral country. Switzerland is not “ruled” by social democrats, the Swiss People’s Party (conservative center-right) is the largest party in the country. We have just had the misfortune of having a socialist president last year (Calmy-Rey, who was elected by parliament, not by the people, the People’s Party has raised a constitutional initiative to change this practice). The current president Widmer-Schlumpf is part of the Bourgeois Democratic Party, an offshoot of the Swiss People’s Party (although I am pissed off with her because she seems to be kneeling before the US just like Calmy-Rey did).

    At least we have a bloody universal health care scheme that offers some minimum mandatory couverage, and options to the consumer to purchase the level of insurance (s)he wants. Basic insurance is guaranteed though– no outrageous premiums for pre-existing condition. And we still have our guns! (I know that some of you at IBS don’t like guns, but Switzerland is a bit like the US in this matter, we don’t have a 2nd Amendment but there is article 58 and 59 which REQUIRE male citizens to take up arms to defend the country). And at least for the moment we don’t have gang violence like the US does. This just goes to show you that there is no clear right-left us and them. The two-party system in the US is part of the problem. There should be more parties. And a constitutional amendment requiring bills to be about one subject at a time: no more riders. No more forcing other politicians to vote for HIRE for example, because it is supposed to create jobs, despite its investment-disencouraging FATCA provisions.

  36. @Don Pomodoro as to — May 10, 2012 at 5:43 pm above.

    I do not believe that Bachmann could have acquired Swiss Citizenship through simple registration. She would have had to go through what we call a “facilitated naturalization”. Since Bachmann appears to have her primary residence in the US, this means that she would had to have lived with her Swiss husband for 6 years abroad (3 years of marriage if she was living in Switzerland for at least 5 years) and show that she has ties to Switzerland (friends, frequent visits, interest in Swiss culture, knowledge of a national language such as French, German/Swiss German, Italian, Reto-rumatsch.)

    The normal naturalization process can be entered into after 12 years of legal residence (I think that this is in the process of being changed, I could go into the details in another post because I don’t have time to research the sources and the new system I heard about would require *permenant* residence for a lesser number of years before applying, but the waiting time for obtaining permenant residence could be reduced for those who are “integrated”).

    The normal naturalization process requires a 2-year or longer administrative delay (depends upon the Canton though) with lots of documents to submit and interviews. In some Cantons the police come to your door and look around your house to see if you actually live there and if you behave like a Swiss person.

    The “facilitated” process takes a little over a year and requires a few documents such as criminal record, credit report, motivation letter, and at least one personal interview with a cantonal naturalization official (I don’t know how they deal with naturalization abroad, maybe consular officials conduct the interview).

    As to Obama, he was not a Kenyan citizen until the new constitution was voted in summer of 2010, at which point he would have had (and has) the option to register himself as a Kenyan (under the prior constitution he lost Kenyan citizenship automatically at the age of majority because he is a US citizen). I don’t know about Indonesia. Probably he was considered an Indonesian by his school in Indonesia because his stepfather was Indonesian. After Obama leaves office, he could certainly become Kenyan again if he wants.

  37. @Jefferson Thomas

    How was her citizenship “automatic through marriage” then? I admit to not being an expert on Swiss citizenship law, but in France and Italy where this very much was “automatic” once upon a time, marrying a Frenchman or Italian literally gave you citizenship that very day. No wait time, interview, language competency test, nothing. Naturally, everyone, including the Swiss, saw the folly of this and tightened up the citizenship by marriage route a long time ago 🙂

    I’m interested in hearing though – What is the new prospective amount of time to wait for those obtaining Swiss nationality that you heard? I never thought that they would make the requirements easier since the changes always seem to get shot down in referendums. I have a cousin who has lived there forever and he only just got it now. He had been there 18 years or something but had to wait longer due to switching Cantons too often! Do some of the Cantons still outlaw naturalisation entirely or allow that awful popular vote to determine outcomes?

  38. Ok, here is the confirmation, published only this morning European time, that Bachmann is asking to renounce:

    http://www.rts.ch/info/suisse/3985571-l-ultra-droite-americaine-michele-bachmann-ne-veut-plus-etre-suisse.html. Appearantly she obtained Swiss nationality the 19th of March.

    If her husband already had Swiss nationality when they were married in 1978, that means that SHE WAS ALREADY SWISS because at the time, females received Swiss citizenship automatically upon marriage to a Swiss citizen, the system changed sometime in the (80’s??) but I don’t know, it may be that her husband had effectively lost Swiss citizenship due to the previous US non-acceptance of dual nationality.

    I am really pissed off with her now. How could she ask for citizenship and then just get rid of it because of political pressure? She should have known what becoming Swiss would mean: she would have dual nationality!!!!! How could she not know? Hello folks, she is a LAWMAKER??? Does she not know what laws do? She is not 100% American. There is no such thing. We are all descended from people who immigrated from all over the world. Despite the melting pot, many of us want to re-establish ties with our ancestors, this is normal. Bachmann was not cheating the US by becoming a Swiss citizen! She is a female! She would never have been drafted into the army! She would never have been summoned for electoral jury duty unless she actually lived in Switzerland! Switzerland is a neutral country!!

    How dare she obtain Swiss nationality, only to renounce less than 2 months later? I wonder if our officials will accept her renouncement or make her pay 450 francs and make her wait for 6 months. They should! Oh, and I forgot, we can still FATCA and FBAR her if she comes to visit us.

  39. @Don Pomodoro as to — May 11, 2012 at 3:06 am

    I think my above post (our posts crossed in terms of time) explains more. In Switzerland today, spouses need to be naturalized just like anybody else, but they get expedited treatment.

  40. @Jeff Exactly. The manner in which these events suggests frivolity on the part of the lawmakers, Bachmann, Carl Levin, passing laws which if we scrutinize their own behaviour would condemn them too. Mitt Romney’s offshore accounts–does he plan to loosen the filing requirements so that expats can breathe easy or continue to force millions of people to file who can’t afford the tax professionals that he, being a multi-millionaire, can easily afford.

    Had Bachmann bothered to pay any attention at all to the so-called “birther” controversy, which raises very important issues of about citizenship, she would have realized that taking the citizenship of another country is toxic. This is why Obama and his sycophantic media completely ignores the possibility that he is or ever has been a dual citizen. But obviously, if she was paying attention, she didn’t understand the issues at all.

    The other question is whether Bachmann will have to wait a year, like I did, to get proof of her loss of citizenship. In the meantime, she should be barred from holding public office or being allowed to see classified documents.

  41. Well, I hope Switzerland denies her right to renounce like the US has done with some people, or charge an exit tax, or file and FBAR first. They may not get any tax revenue, but it would be good reciprocal harrassment.

  42. @geez

    I don’t think the Swiss gov’t will make the same mistakes as the U.S. does 😉

  43. Uncletell,

    It’s one thing if you are in my boat, born in the US with something that is expensive and difficult to get rid of like US-leprosy-citizenship. And it’s another to request citizenship and be granted citizenship. I would like to see someone get US Citizenship and then renounce it the next day. Imagine the scandal !

    Seriously, what Michelle Bachmann did is spit in the face of the Swiss people and their laws. She’s basically saying that Swiss citizenship is a joke and you can throw it out like a cheap plastic bag.

    Tell them to take her citizenship and give it to me! 🙂 I’d love to have Swiss Ctizenship.

  44. Agree with geeez. All that Bachmann has done is offend Swiss people the world over. I would personally kill for Swiss citizenship as I am sure would the many immigrants in Switzerland who have to wait a minimum of 12 years to obtain citizenship there would do as well. Shame on you Michele Bachmann.

  45. May her latest move further erode any credibility she may have had. Where do they find these people?

  46. Rivka88, I don’t believe Chuck E. Yeager was a dual citizen. Nowhere does he state that he was anything other than from Buck Holler. Glenn Edwards, (on the other hand) the namesake of Edwards AFB, was a dual Canadian/American citizen who was born in Medicine Hat, Alberta.

  47. @Hugo Chikamori
    my mistake, I was researching dual citizenship US officers, must have transposed Yeager for Edwards. I served at Edwards at the end of the Vietnam war era. Knowing he was dual, could have helped in explaining by decision to move to Canada

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