Thank you from a Fellow Brocker — We’re all in this together!

Greetings to All from Julian (especially Just Me, FromtheWilderness, Blaze and Em after their recent speculation on whether or not Julian was a “Brocker” and their invitation for Julian to join Isaac Brock if not).

I have just noticed all the comments about me at Isaac Brock and want to thank all of you for your kind words. I can’t do so without giving up my identity, either under my Brock pseudonym or by opening another account under my real name, so I am asking calgary411 to be my go-between.

I (calgary411) have the pleasure of knowing Julian and count him as a special friend through all of this. I, too respect the many literate comments (virtually well thought-out essays) Julian has tirelessly posted on countless media news stories (and here), to the benefit of us all. I’m glad to do this for Julian.

I count myself amongst the number here – and am especially indebted to all of you for your insights, hard research and personal thoughts so willingly shared. We are all in this together, working for one goal! Isaac Brock has been one of the few bright spots in this whole mess.

I (calgary411) second that, Julian. Don’t we all know that!


47 thoughts on “Thank you from a Fellow Brocker — We’re all in this together!

  1. Well, whoever he is, his work around the web is well appreciated by many! I was just reading several tonight at an Forbes Saverin story on May 23rd. Where I posted a comment tonight encouraging him to join the discussion here..

  2. @ Julian Hudson
    I love a good mystery but I also know when to leave it alone. 😉 But at least one thing is solved — we now know why your excellent comments are so in tune with the dialogue at IBS. It is great that you are pitching in with all the dedicated Brockers who post in so many different places. (I won’t name them all because I’d forget someone.) I know I should be doing the same but I really restrict the number of sites I sign in at — just a thing I have. Besides, writing is not an easy flow thing for me so I spend 99% of my time reading and an embarassingly certain percentage of that misinterpreting what I’m reading. Thank you to everyone here at IBS for making my days better and my nights easier and a specific thank you to you, Julian Hudson, for popping up in a most welcomed manner when I am following the links to other sites.

  3. @Julian c/o calgary411

    Your writing is highly appreciated. It was an honor to have been thought of as being you.

    Keep up the good fight!

  4. @Julian, I, too appreciate, your postings. Often, I’ll go to comment, but then I read yours, you’ve already said what I wanted to say, but in a much more cogent and eloquent way. You often make me think about things a little bit different than my norm, so thank you.

  5. I have to ask why so many here wish to remain anonymous on Brock yet are comfortable being “out” elsewhere? Is there some residual paranoia from when some commenters were censored at Expat Forum late last year, and thus formed the Isaac Brock Society blog? I know I’m already semi-out but don’t want to make it TOO easy for potential adversaries to know who I really am. I also want to get some ‘business’ taken care of before I out myself.

  6. @ bubblebustin
    I think your last sentence explains things. I for one will only feel comfortable being “out” when I have a stamped I-407 and have successfully extricated myself from filing. But even then I will have to think about my husband who has further to go to be filing free. I wish we could all meet and greet each other here out in the open ( yes I know that if they want to know who we are they have ways to do it) yet I prefer to be, for now at least, just Em. (I doubt they are rooting around for such small potatoes as we are though.) A few years from now I hope we can all have a we’re out from under the weight of the IRS party at IBS.

  7. bubble –

    Brock and USxCanada InfoShop are the only web venues where I pseudonymize. That may change, that may not. Very unlikely before lengthy and torturous processes have wound their way to uncertain conclusion. Sometime in 2013 with luck?

  8. That’s completely understandable but why would some, myself included, speak so vehemently against some policies in our own identities elsewhere and not here? Why does Brock have a perceived bulls eye?

  9. bubblebustin said: “Why does Brock have a perceived bulls eye?”

    Because there is strength in numbers. Also we are representing potentially 1 million people of American origin in Canada, that’s a big number.

    Individuals can post the most eloquent arguments in their own names elsewhere but they are isolated events and so they are not considered a threat.

    This website is a threat because it’s organized and cohesive and we’ve engaged members of our government at the highest level in the struggle. Also, because it is primarily Canadian I think it would be taken more seriously because Canadians tend to be more passive. The fact that we are all worked up about this means that our opposition (the US government) is clearly in the wrong.

    They can’t label us rich tax cheats living the high life in Switzerland. We pay outrageously high taxes where we live. Everybody knows Canadians live the dullest of lives and we like it that way. To come after us is just pure vindictiveness and greed on the part of the US government.

  10. @omg I would think that for those reasons the US would have more grounds for diplomacy than persecution in the case against any individual of this group. Any one of us minnows would draw a distinction between most of us and Saverin the whale. That said, we are still dealing with a desperate animal.

  11. @bubblebustin, I agree the US government is acting like a wild vicious animal in the throws of death. Diplomacy is not a word it could comprehend.

    Among it’s most affected victims are people who actually live in the US, many of whom have lost everything. Consider how much angst we are feeling and we are in many ways protected from this animal. I can’t even imagine the suffering of those that have lost their jobs and homes down there. These poor folks keep being told that things are consistently getting better when nothing could be further from the truth.

  12. @omg, I think citizenship based taxation and how the US is enforcing it is their dirty little secret, otherwise why would they have been so negligent in making their citizens aware of it? The last page in mouse print in your passport? The Canadian media did their work for them in getting the word out to me. It’s a secret because a) they rely on the element of surprise in administering their FBAR fundraiser and b) I think if American homelanders really knew what it’s all about (as Ron Paul does) they would object to the inability of unfettered access to the rest of the world. Don’t we?

  13. @All – I have no idea where to put this idea, and since this thread is about ‘fellow brockers’ it seemed the most appropriate.

    July 1 is Canada Day. Can we Canadian Brockers take advantage of this date to encourage/demand our government stand up for our rights? To refuse the US attempt to reclaim our citizenship? To refuse the US attempt to invade our privacy? To refuse the US attempt to take our money? To say no to the US bullying?
    Can, or should, the Society come up with a message that we all send to the Minister of Finance, the Privacy Commissioner, the Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism?

    Imagine if a few hundred emails were all received by them on July 1st, all with the same message. Surely that would have some impact?

    I know we get accused of being too Canada-centric here, but with Canada Day coming up, it seemed a perfect opportunity to make a statement to our gov’t.
    What do people think?

  14. @ outragedcanadian
    I love your idea. It would be a “Say NO to the USA” e-mail campaign. I’m in and hopefully one of the many good writers here can put the template together for us. I would happily spend the wee hours of July 1st pressing SEND, SEND, SEND.

  15. Thanks, Em! I could even send from my real identity and my outraged identity, and double up! It would be wonderful if one of our more skillful writers could come up with a message that would get attention, and get the point across.

  16. Absolutely — perfect day to demand further representation from our government representatives.

  17. I hate to be a wet blanket, but haven’t we been doing this to the best of our abilities all along? Maybe we should stand at the border and burn some Canadian and American flags, but then, er, no one wants to be seen.

  18. @ bubblebustin
    We have both flags but I kind of like them so I probably wouldn’t burn them. And yes we have been doing this all along but I think the idea is for the e-mails to arrive en masse, hopefully giving them more force. I’m banging pots and pans on “Casserole Nights” (Wednesdays 8PM) for the Quebec students (mostly in protest of Bill 78) BUT we have a cow bell that I could ring every time I press the SEND button on July 1st. Not than anyone would know why but just because it’s fun. 🙂

  19. It would be worth a try, but I have sent four e-mails to Jim Flaherty over the past two months with no response. As Tiger says, Flaherty’s “silence is deafening.”

  20. @Blaze & Bubblebustin, yes, I know we have, but Em’s right. What I thought might – perhaps – maybe – have an impact is to fill their mailboxes on Canada day with the same message from different people on Canada day asking for Canada to stand up for us. Maybe it’s a forlorn hope, but even if no one else does, I think I’ll have to try. The deafening silence IRKS me.

  21. @saddened, I’ll drink to that! Ok if not flags, how about we burn some effigies?
    Ok, seriously, I like the letter writing blitz. How about we come up with a message that we agree represents how we feel as a group and send it out en masse? Maybe we can make it from the Isaac Brock Society, as certainly it will get some notice this being the year we celebrate how we burned the white house down in the War of 1812?

    (Just kidding about the going back and doing it again part)

  22. We need to get more attention..Blaze needs to lead the pack with her Uniform and Sword..

  23. “The pen is mightier than the sword.” In this case, it’s actually a computer, rather than a pen–but it reaches more people more quickly.

    Here’s are some words I drafted. These are, of course, for discussion, revision or rejection

    Two hundred years ago, Sir Isaac Brock fought against the attempted takeover of Canada by the Americans. He lost his life in battle defending what was to become the great nation of Canada.

    Today, we celebrate with all Canadians his efforts which resulted in Canadian freedoms, values and independence which are the envy of the world.

    On the 200th anniversary of the War of 1812, Canada is again being threatened with Americaninvasion. This time the United States is trying to accomplish through financial bullying what they could not achieve two centuries ago through aggressive war efforts.

    The Americans are attempting to invade the lives of law-abiding, honest tax-paying Canadian citizens and residents.

    The United States is further attempting, through monetary threats, to force Canadian financial institutions to become an agent of the United States Internal Revenue Service and to force these financial institutions to contravene Canadian privacy, banking, human rights and charter laws.

    Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) threatens Canadian sovereignty to determine and maintain the laws of Canada in protecting the rights of ALL of it’s citizens and residents to manage their personal financial affairs in privacy and with confidence with their chosen financial institution.

    Approximately 1 million Canadians of American origin or heritage are affected by this attempted intrusion into the lives intrusion into the lives of honest, law-abiding, tax-paying Canadians.

    While you have responded to some letters or e-mails, many others have gone unanswered. While you spoke out against FATCA publicly almost a year ago, your silence in recent months has been deafening.

    It is time for you to stand up for the rights of Canadians of American origin, or those who may simply have had the misfortune to be born in the U.S. due to circumstances of their Canadian parents or hospitals at the time.

    Sir Isaac Brock fought for and gave his life for Canada 200 years ago. On Canada’s birthday, I urge you to stand up for Canada now.

    Tell the Americans Canada doesn’t negotiate with financial terrorists. Tell the Americans Canada is an independent democratic country which establishes and enforces laws to protect its citizens and residents. Tell the Americans no foreign government dictates what those laws will be.

    Tell Canadian financial institutions they must comply with Canadian laws and they cannot violate those laws to meet the demands of a foreign government.

    Most importantly, tell Canadians of American origin they and their financial privacy are safe. Assure Canadians that Canadian laws will not be changed meet the demands of a foreign government.
    Learn more about how modern-day Canadians are standing up to the Americans as peaceful, modern day warriors at a forum in Sir Isaac Brock’s name. ( Join us in ensuring Canadian freedoms are not lost. .

    Don’t delay. Do it now. Sir Isaac Brock would expect no less from a Canadian leader.

  24. @Blaze, Yes you are right, the Pen (Computer)is mightier than the sword.. That is a great letter!! Excellent!! Love it!

  25. @Blaze, ok you’ve got the nuts and bolts there, but it sounds a little ranty and demanding (but not without passion!) It need tempering, but it could work well as a framework.
    @saddened, thanks!

  26. @bubblebustin’: What do you expect from someone with a Redcoat and a Sword? Unfortunately, I have found being calm and polite doesn’t get Flaherty’s attention.

    It’s actually just meant as a draft and is open to changes, additions, deletions or total rejection. I’m a Brocker. I can take it.

  27. @blaze, certainly no disrespect intended. I think what you wrote was great, from the heart. I think Flaherty gets it, I don’t know if we give our representatives here enough credit (although who’s to know?) I think there’s a lot of back room negotiating going on and I’ve heard it from a few relatively reliable sources that the Canadian OVDI submissions have been halted in Austin for some reason, and those from other countries are being processed. John Weston, my MP, on last communication said he was working hard on these issues, so I don’t think we’ve been forgotten. I think that these issues, including FATCA have become incredibly sensitive for both countries. Just my opinion, but I think we should approach on the premise that our (Canadian) government is doing what it can. Flaherty said what he had to say last year and at least has not publicly wavered on that.

  28. @ Blaze
    I think it should be shorter but honestly I wouldn’t want to leave anything out. I like the passion. I think my Flaherty letter was lacking passion because I didn’t want to tick off someone who seemed to be on our side — well not too much anyway. Oh and I think it has to be not specifically for Flaherty because this needs to go to Harper and others tool.
    While you spoke out against FATCA publicly almost a year ago, your silence in recent months has been deafening.
    COULD BE …
    While Finance Minister Flaherty spoke out … etc.
    That would make it easier to send. Knowing me if there was slightly different wording for each person I’d get them mixed up. The idea is to show them we have some numbers now and we are not going to be silent.

  29. @All, bubblebustin,

    Bubblebustin’s husband, on the sidelines, has cut through it all to come up with “Dear Canada”.

    I like that idea too — simplification (KISS) .

    Letters to the Editors of Canadian newspapers — i.e., for Calgary: the Calgary Herald; the Calgary Sun. And, even our little local weeklies — for instance those like “FastForward” in Calgary (

  30. @All, love it! I do think passion is required, if, as bubblebustin suggests, we can keep it from appearing to be a rant. I’ve found that quickly turns people off, leads them to think ‘okay, nutcase here’, while reasonable discussion causes an OMG, you’re not serious! that’s insane! response.
    Very nice work, Blaze! And I also love the Dear Canada idea.
    Out of curiosity, I checked the Calgary Herald rates, thinking what if we took out a banner or half page ad or something, but it appears to be extremely pricey, so I think your idea of the local weeklies, et al, is a great idea. I have 3 papers I can write to locally, although not sure they’d all publish since they’re sort of related.

  31. @EM: Loved got your brocking.

    @bubblebustin’: Also love Brock Around The Clock. I can hear Elvis belting it out.

    I also really like your husband’s idea of “Dear Canada” for a Canada Day letter. Then we could include Canadian newspapers. Many don’t publish on Canada Day, so if we did that, we should try June 30 (a Saturday) for those that don’t.

    If we want to explore the idea of a common letter further, we may want a separate thread for it.

    Now, I’m going to actually try to take a Brock Break for the rest of the weekend. Let’s see if I succeed. I think even Sir Isaac occasionally needed R and R.

  32. Ooops! I think it was Bill Haley and the Comments who did Rock Around the Clock. I can still see Elvis belting it out Brock Around the Clock (with apologies to The Comet).

    I definitely need that break I promised myself!

  33. I like the idea of brocking local Canadian newspapers (around the July 1st date) wherever possible. I know the editor of our small town paper so I could try to submit our “Dear Canada” letter to him.

  34. I like ‘Dear Canada’ too. Or, Dear, Beloved Canada. Could it say “as peaceful, modern day ‘RESISTERS’ ” rather than ‘warriors’? Might that wording resonate more with people who don’t understand how serious and far reaching the FATCA threat is yet? Don’t want them to turn off or start getting distracted from the main message?

    And mentioning US attempts to retroactively reclaim people who relinquished or renounced decades ago when they chose to become citizens of Canada. Plus the ‘accidentals’. That is such an egregious example of imperial overreach and intrusion into Canada.

    We should thank Flaherty for his past public statements and efforts, to give credit where it is due. But we need something to hearten us now, and note that the rest of the world is looking to Canada to lead – as Sir Isaac Brock led – as an example in resistance to US overreach – via FATCA (which is likely true given that we’re next door, and have an entwined history – Australia and others may very well be watching what happens here). And say that while there may be efforts being made in private, the Canadian PUBLIC needs to know that they will be protected. As we pay our taxes in full to Canada, and our Canadian accounts are already fully reported and overseen by the CRA and levels of Canadian government oversight – the US demands to implement FATCA are an insult to Canadian sovereignty. Sometimes even the best neighbour needs to be told where the acceptable limits of co-existence stand.

    Mentioning that the US efforts are treating Canadian institutions as if they are vehicles for money laundering – might infuriate Canadians – since it is implying that our own domestic oversight is inadequate or negligent, and should be reporting to the US – bowing to US demands as if Canada was a US subject or colony.

  35. @all, I agree with Blaze that we should move our “Dear Canada” letter to its own thread so others don’t miss the opportunity to participate. She’s taking a well deserved break from Brock, any volunteers for the honour?

  36. @Bubblebustin, sure I’ll give it a try tonight or tomorrow morning. I’ve never done something like that, moved comments over, but I’ll give it a try and see how I do.

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